Can you really outsource marketing of a high tech company?


How do you overcome the marketers not understanding what it is you do?

In my case making the rash assumption they are selling "some IT services". After 3 months I couldn't get through that we don't fix peoples computers or maintain their networks, we build software that underpins their business's operation ... its another company entirely that services their email and sells them MS Office.

Tech is hard to explain when you are the one doing it let alone never really thought about it before ...

So how could I go about explaining this so that I don't have to learn marketing on top of everything else.

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asked Apr 1 '11 at 14:44
Robin Vessey
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  • Oh Rob, was this question specifically designed to rile me up? :) – Joseph Barisonzi 13 years ago
  • Actually it was partially inspired from one of your questions ... my answer started going off track so I asked it as a new question instead. – Robin Vessey 13 years ago

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I am sorry that you had a bad experience with the marketing firm you hired Rob. If your answers and questions on this board are any indication of the intellectual capital that your firm applies to it's client, and your concern is a reflection of the attitude your bring to your client -- then I would happily move to Australian to be your Director of Marketing.

If I decided to be my own plumber after having a bad experience with a plumber I would be taking cold showers. If I decided to be my own lawyer because of the bad experiences I have had with lawyers, well I am fairly certain that I would be sitting in prison.

Fire them If you find that your marketing consultant doesn't understand your business-- fire them. Period. No questions. No explanation needed. I don't providing marketing support for B2C companies -- because I don't get it and I respect my clients enough to know that there is someone better.

I do provide marketing support and services to high tech companies, companies that develop software, companies that sell services to other companies because those are spaces that I understand. (That isn’t all I or our companies do -- but I was trying to illustrate the point! )

The Role of Marketing The most important role is understanding the scope of responsibility of a marketing team.
Traditionally marketing produces the leads, sales converts them. In a dysfunctional system marketing complains that sales can’t close and sales responds that the marketing doesn’t provide qualified leads. In a functional system marketing works effectively with sales. (And fundamentally marketing and sales should be working very closely with the production team.)

Marketing is not creating a website, ghost writing some blog posts, and sponsoring some webinars. That might be tacticsw of an overall marketing plan. Marketing includes branding, market segmentation, targeting, competitors research, CRM systems, customer/client feedback/satisfaction, pricing, and participation in core strategy and direction of the company.

Different Skill Sets Different marketing consultants have different backgrounds which lead to different skill sets. Like different programming languages --the approach and skills will lead to a focuses or emphasis on different goals, strategies and tactics.

Some marketing professionals are really production managers that want to create collateral. Maybe they came out of the print or design industry. Maybe they are web programmers looking to add additional value to their websites. Other marketing consultants are organizational development specialist that like well developed processes and systems.

The carpenter sees woods and nails. The painter a canvass. An engineer a system to design.

Understanding the scope of your need will allow you to choose a marketing partner that will drive your success. If you are looking for someone who can support you in coordinating the marketing function of your company -- including but not limited to one of the specific areas above I recommend that you look for someone with a “Marketing Operations” background.

Different Approaches Combined with the different skills are different approaches. Once again, strongly influenced by the path to which the individual arrived at their current role, the approach of a specific marketing team will have a huge impact on your experience -- and their effectiveness in working with you. Over the years our team has developed and matured an approach to marketing operation which we call market-centric. It provides us great counsel in knowing what clients with whom we are more or less likely to be effective and successful.

Finding the Right One So, now -- with that background we get to the issue at hand -- how to choose one which will “get” your business and help you grow. Here are four little pointers that I hope will help:
Know your outcomes : Don’t restrict yourself to specific strategies or tactics -- even if you have an inclining of what you want. Define the outcome you want. An outcome is measurable. Allow your marketing consultant to define a path.

Beware of prepackaged proposals : Throw away the template crap in the proposal. You are in a B2B space. Demand a customized personalize proposal that addresses your unique situation and concerns. If you don’t get it at the beginning of the relationship-- you certainly wont get it later.

Honor Intellectual Capital : A good proposal from a marketing consultant doesn’t just lay out what to do. That is their intellectual capital. They give that out for free and it becomes worthless. If you want to see a defined plan before you jump -- as you should -- pay for the intellectual capital by paying for the planning process. A good planning process will generate a good plan which you would have the capacity to implement with or without the consultant. Give yourself that option. Date before marrying.

Call References : No references? Then it’s probably not a good fit. No references in your space? Then it’s probably not a good fit. Don’t just get the list. Call them. Ask questions. Probe on issues of how they work. Do they partner? Do they learn? Do they change? To be successful the answer to all three should be yes.

B2B marketing and sales is challenging. Each market segment has a culture of rules, expectations and networks of relationships that need to be respected in the development and implementation of a plan. Successfully navigating this is essential in today’s world where the landscape is littered with failed companies that had superior technology, superior products, breakthrough ideas -- because they were unable to connect with their customer and develop a sustainable relationship.

Don’t let yours become one of them.

answered Apr 2 '11 at 05:13
Joseph Barisonzi
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  • Nice answer. Yes they were prepackaged, yes we were just going through their process, and yes we have discontinued with them. – Robin Vessey 13 years ago
  • @Joseph Barisonzi - for the phrase "Know your outcome" - does that mean something as simple as I want to have X number of clients by Y date each paying Z dollars? – John 12 years ago


I worked for a high-tech company with an in-house marketing department that struggled to understand what we did. Marketing high-tech is tough.

If I understand Redgum's model you're primarily marketing services and not products, and the aim is to improve the new project pipeline. The partner organizations I've worked with in similar businesses did most of their marketing through events (similar to the workshop it looks like you offer) and technical accreditations. Relationships with product vendors, especially international ones without a major Australian presence, may be a direct way to increase pipeline. Your site mentions process automation, I know there are several US and European companies in that space just getting started in that market.

answered Apr 1 '11 at 15:55
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  • So what I think your saying is bad luck, your doing it yourself? (with some good tips on better ways I can go about it) – Robin Vessey 13 years ago
  • Yeah, I'm saying DIY. I think you're best bet is referrals, partnerships and events. You have a good web presence and messaging already. Unless you want to enter a new market or try to raise profile through publications I'm not sure what you'd be paying for. – Rsg 13 years ago


A cost effective way to market and promote your high tech company beside outsourcing the work is to create a blog. Basically post great content that attempts to answer the questions your potential client might have about your particular niche. Try to make the blog so easy to read and if possible use multimedia content like videos; interviews, demos and so on in order to standout from the competition.

If you go the route of using a marketing company you can get better results if their goal is not to outrightly sell your services and instead to offer potential clients several free resources that you have available this way they can get a taste before buying. For instance I do free live weekly webinars and twice a month I outsource lead generation for attendees to a marketing company. They help to promote the webinar and the last one they did over 72 people registered. Granted not all of the people who registered attended, I have all their emails and have enter them into my email autoresponder sequence in order to nurture them into clients by providing with additional useful content via email.

answered Apr 1 '11 at 23:06


There are marketeers with technical backgrounds and engineering degrees. When you interview for an outsource vendor, this should be one of your screens. Also, make sure the technical background is in YOUR area of technology. Doesn't help to get someone with a civil engineering degree when you need someone to understand how to market optical instrumentation!

(FYI, this was how I got into marketing in the first place. I was originally an engineer and got frustrated with non-technical marketeers not being able to get I became one.)

answered Apr 2 '11 at 04:58
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