Startup without company?


2

If I have access to a big hall/room in a building I own and I wanted to convert it into a personal gym. Then one day I say to a friend, you can use my gym if you give me $100 a year, and I will give you $10 back for each person you get to join my gym who will pay $100 a year.

Do I need to start a company to do this? Will I have to pay tax on the money I receive from the possible friends? Will my friend have to pay tax on the $10 he receives for every person he introduces to my personal gym?

Payments Legal Tax

asked Mar 17 '11 at 04:23
Blank
Oshirowanen
201 points

2 Answers


2

You would just keep track of this as you would a business (should use a separate account and accounting procedures) and then at the end of the year file the profit/loss on Schedule C of your tax return.

You don't need to do much more than that, although with a tiny bit of effort you could.

answered Mar 17 '11 at 05:28
Blank
Michael Pryor
2,235 points

1

Do you have to? No.

You could do this under the radar, especially if the amounts concerned were low.

IMO, your biggest concern is personal liability is if someone gets hurt in the gym. Having a formal corporation would shield you personally from any lawsuits. It also means you need to file paperwork, pay taxes and so on, which tends to make a little venture like this become more trouble than its worth.

On top of that, from what I've heard via friends, running a gym is a slim profit margin business in the first place. I wouldn't try to build up a big referrals business. This sounds more like a "beer money" business. Set up the gym that YOU want, and charge people $100/year to use it. Cash only, skip the referrals thing. If someone refers 10 people, then at the 10th person offer them a "lifetime" membership for free. I'd probably also have them sign some sort of liability waiver and post signs "work out at your own risk". That won't prevent you from geting sued, but it will hopefully limit your losses to just the legal fees.

answered Mar 17 '11 at 05:18
Blank
Brian Karas
3,407 points
  • What if I have a similar idea to this? i.e. join for x amount, and get x amount for referrals, but there was no risk of anyone getting hurt and there was big money in it. Would I have to set-up a company to do that, and pay the taxes for the fees and the referrals? – Oshirowanen 6 years ago
  • Technically for tax purposes you probably need to setup a formal structure for collecting any kinds of payment. It could be a corporation, or just DBA paperwork. Technically you need to report any income on your annual income taxes. What I was saying is that there is this grey area that many many people operate in as an "under the table" situation where they collect small amounts of money but do not report it. If you're collecting fees and paying referrals, you're going to need and want a formal business structure. – Brian Karas 6 years ago
Add Comment

Your Answer

  • Bold
  • Italic
  • • Bullets
  • 1. Numbers
  • Quote
Not the answer you're looking for? Ask your own question or browse other questions in these topics:

Payments Legal Tax