Novice questions on starting a business


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Lets pretend I'm starting an on line company which sells email accounts; I have some (probably laughable) questions because I'm new to this:

Do I have to register as a business with Companies House (I'm in the UK), or is it optional?

Do I have to have a business bank account? I works full time for someone so this is an after hours bit of fun (working as a one man band) selling stuff on line, can I just use my personal account? Or open a second one, as business accounts cost money?

Lets say I rent a server in another country (lets say Slovakia) where I will be hosting my mail server, do I need to register as a business in Slovakia?

I'm not taking a profit from my business as I work full time, if this project made any money it would be re invested back in the business, so presumably I don't need to register as self employed?

Many thanks for reading and for your time. Any answers would be greatly appreciated as I'm clearly a novice with these aspects :)

Incorporation UK Company Accounting

asked Sep 10 '11 at 23:45
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Jwbensley
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  • Did you try asking the same questions to a corporate lawyer?? – Ph D 9 years ago

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Do I have to register as a business with Companies House (I'm in the UK), or is it optional?

You have two choices, either incorporate as a private limited company, or trade as a sole trader. A PLC is a little more complex admin-wise, but it makes a clearly separation between company money and your money and limits your liability in the case of financial problems. Only the PLC needs to be registered at companies house.

The effective tax rate is generally slightly lower for a PLC if you're able to pay yourself in dividends. But if this is a one man band business combined with a full time job I think acting as a sole trader and an employee is very difficult accounting wise. Forming a full PLC is also excessive overhead, so my suggestion is to find a friend who owns a company and ask if you can trade through their business account and be paid as an employee. Obviously, they'll need to be a good friend.

Do I have to have a business bank account?

No, but it's generally unwise to operate commercially without a business account. If you got audited by HMRC, putting them together would make your life very hard. It would also make bookkeeping very hard.

In terms of book keeping, if your revenues justify it, I'd recommend FreeAgent very highly. It's online book keeping software for sole traders and PLCs. My accountant reduces his price by more than the subscription cost because it present the accounts so well for him to analysis. But don't add any expenses if you don't have much revenues, obviously.

Lets say I rent a server in another country (lets say Slovakia) where
I will be hosting my mail server, do I need to register as a business
in Slovakia?

No.

I'm not taking a profit from my business as I work full time, if this
project made any money it would be re invested back in the business,
so presumably I don't need to register as self employed?

Your profits, income, whatever, don't technically have any bearing on the form of the company. If you're saying you don't intend to take a salary ever, apart from the question of the point of it, there are still reasons to incorporate. One is the problem that a business account is generally a better idea and two is the fact that you are still liable for your actions. If you do this as an individual and cause another company to lose money, which they decide to sue you for (unlikely, but possible), you'd realise the advantages of a PLC at that point.

Running a business overall isn't really something to "play" around with. You kinda need to either do it properly or not at all.

If it's a case of 200 quid a year, then HMRC would be unlikely to press you for format accounts, you could probably get away with just paying it to yourself and declaring it on your self-assessment (if you don't already do that, you'll have to start). I could say contact an accountant, but given that'll probably cost more than your earn, I know it's unlikely you will :).

answered Dec 12 '11 at 00:33
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David Benson
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  • In the U.S., you don't have to register a business, but there are a lot of reasons to do so. You can just be "John Smith doing business as Acme Anvil Company". I'm not sure about U.K.
  • In the U.S. you are not required to open a business account. If you don't have to register your business in the U.K., you probably won't have to have a business bank account.
  • You don't need to register your business in Slovakia if you rent a mail server there.
  • If the business makes a profit and you reinvest the profit in the business, you still have to pay income tax on that profit, either as the business or personally, depending on the U.K. tax code and the options you select for organizing your business. You can probably find details on this on a UK government web site.
answered Sep 11 '11 at 09:49
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Xpda
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For the UK:

  • company registration is optional but depends on how much business you are doing and with whom, if you are dealing with B2B products it would be better to be registered
  • no you don't have to have a business account, for accounting purposes it is easier to have it all out of a business account and you can normally get 12-18 months free banking (I did from Barclays)
  • no you don't have to register in each country you buy from or sell to
  • you need to ask an accountant really, it depends on how much you are making as you will need to be paying tax of some kind on any earnings whether that be personal or business taxes (or both).
answered Sep 12 '11 at 19:49
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Lloyd S
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